Legal?

Pedbor · Post by **Pedbor** » Thu Mar 05, 2009 4:24 pm

Hi

Today a question jumped to my mind...

picture this scenario:
person A cracks/tries to crack into person B's computer.
person B cracks/tries to crack into person A's computer as revenge or w/e.

I know that person A breaks the law but does person B do it?
If you compare to ex. person A attacks person B and person B fights back, then its self defence.

Just curious //Pedbor

plope0726 · Post by **plope0726** » Thu Mar 05, 2009 6:06 pm

Thats a good question...

My guess is that by the books it is illegal. Technically self defense would occur while the original attack is going on. (ie: if someone is trying to beat you up and you turn around and beat them up instead.) Your example would be more comparable to someone beating you up and then the next day you go and beat them up. You would be in trouble in this case, so I assume that a revenge attack would be illegal aswell.

PaRaDoX · Post by **PaRaDoX** » Thu Mar 05, 2009 11:30 pm

plope0726 wrote:Thats a good question... My guess is that by the books it is illegal. Technically self defense would occur while the original attack is going on. (ie: if someone is trying to beat you up and you turn around and beat them up instead.) Your example would be more comparable to someone beating you up and then the next day you go and beat them up. You would be in trouble in this case, so I assume that a revenge attack would be illegal aswell.

.......unless it is to regain stolen info thats important (ie credit card infos)

plope0726 · Post by **plope0726** » Fri Mar 06, 2009 12:16 am

True but I'm sure there are certain channels you must go through to stay out of trouble...

Qu'alynd · Post by **Qu'alynd** » Fri Mar 06, 2009 8:31 pm

in germany person B would also break the law, no matter what information A got (even portscans are considered an attack... 3 years jail...)

plope0726 · Post by **plope0726** » Fri Mar 06, 2009 9:29 pm

Isn't penetration testing illegal in germany too? Even if hired by the owner?

a · Post by a » Fri Mar 06, 2009 10:01 pm

jail my ass
do u think that in deutshland have jails for hackers
hah

a · Post by a » Fri Mar 06, 2009 10:03 pm

and for the person who hack my account
u r the most gayest man on earth
and if u want i can give u my other account

PaRaDoX · Post by **PaRaDoX** » Sat Mar 07, 2009 3:17 am

a wrote:and for the person who hack my account
u r the most gayest man on earth
and if u want i can give u my other account

lmao. he thinks someone hacked him, but he has no fucking idea the trail of breadcrumbs he left. even his signature makes me laugh EVERY TIME IS SEE IT.

HEY A, LOOK AT YOUR SIGNATURE. SEE ANYTHING FUN?

Qu'alynd · Post by **Qu'alynd** » Wed Mar 11, 2009 4:34 pm

http://bundesrecht.juris.de/stgb/__202c.html
1 year jail for DOWNLOADING cain&abel and similiar tools

http://bundesrecht.juris.de/stgb/__202a.html
3 years jail for sniffer network traffic

nope it says "unbefugt" which means as much as "not autorized", so penetration testing is legal...