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I'm wanna become hacker wanna know where should i start

Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 3:41 am
by nassmove
hi guyz, I don't know anything of hacking could u tell me what should I do to start at hacking (what I need to learn before starting any hacking attempt) I really want to learn hacking............ I know that i need to learn alot by myself but I'm ready to do it I just want to know what I need to start learning by myself. I know a guy who knows programming but he told me that if u know programming that doesnt mean u know hacking then I also wanna know what u need more than programming to be able to hack.

it's a dream for me to one day master the art of hacking.

Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 3:50 am
by WhiteKnight
Learn a programming language first... like........ Python, C#, Visual Basic .Net, or Java.

When you know all the aspect of programming language you're in then you need to study network such as TCP, UDP, IPv4, IPv6, and ect... :)

Once you understand those then look for an exploit in operating system that you know which OS that your target have.

Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 5:03 pm
by nassmove
Ty ........ I'm gonna work hard to finish theses first steps .. lol

Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 6:30 am
by PaRaDoX
hi, i'm not exactly new, i've studied some python and am starting out in C, and i also know a fair bit of batch (or whatever you would like to refer to it as), but i would like to know if anyone knows any good sites to study the network related things like TCP, UDP, IPv4, IPv6....and so on. yea, i know, the easiest way is to search google, but its also the most innaccurate and unreliable as well. you can get many random results and end up wasting a lot of time with nothing to show for the effort, which leads back to the question i asked above.

Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 9:15 am
by WhiteKnight
PaRaDoX wrote:hi, i'm not exactly new, i've studied some python and am starting out in C, and i also know a fair bit of batch (or whatever you would like to refer to it as), but i would like to know if anyone knows any good sites to study the network related things like TCP, UDP, IPv4, IPv6....and so on. yea, i know, the easiest way is to search google, but its also the most innaccurate and unreliable as well. you can get many random results and end up wasting a lot of time with nothing to show for the effort, which leads back to the question i asked above.
That where you have to study on how the network come.... and go....

I'll explain a few tips...

There are 2 things that internet always have...

A listener and a client.

Now.... Listener is a host that accept connection from a client and the client is to communicate the listener....

I would suggest you to use CLI for this one... it is more easier for your level...

Use the System.Net.Sockets namespace and use the TCPSocket class.

To use it.... it work like a stream... by using GetStream method... Send and recieve is a bit different...

Now... when using TCPListener, when you Pending and found a new requesting connection, use the AcceptTcpSocket method and have another TcpSocket assigned from that method...

When you want the listener to send information to the TcpClient then use the assigned TcpClient and GetStream method and it work the same way as you did when you're like a client....

=3

If you cannot seems to get any respond from the listener and you know that it SHOULD work then make sure you check on the firewalls.... oh and you don't need more than 1 computer to test to see if it work, but it good anyway. =)

There are a lot of information to go for you...

Oh and you don't have to change to have an opening port for Client... you'll find out... it changed port in any way to connect host... strange but true...

Now I'm done for now and excuse my spelling and grammar, because I'm soooooooooooo tired. Thank for listening.....

PM me if you really want to borrow my codes in C# and I done that program about..... maybe.... 1 or 2 years ago.... =)

Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 10:39 pm
by PaRaDoX
hah, thanks. there was a lot of useful info there. the gears are turning already.....hehe. oh and thanks for the offer of borrowing your code, but i prefer to make my. that way, i can say that i made it, and have something to be proud of. that, and i would know it like the back of my hand, so if any problem arises, its much easier to handle :3 again, thanks anyways.

Re: I'm wanna become hacker wanna know where should i start

Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 8:46 am
by Trogue
start at school lol thats wher i started just dont get caght and dont trust any one exept your friends!!! :evil: oh and use CCleaner to cover your tracks so theres no proof. :D start by finding flaws in the security

oh and good luck with your dream :lol:

Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 4:22 am
by PaRaDoX
my dream? hacking, isn't a dream for me, it's more of a hobby. kinda like lockpicking, BMXing, etc.etc. anyway, thanks whiteknight, that actually REALLY helped. of course, i'll understand more of it when i learn more. and btw, im not sure if it makes a difference, but i meant to say C++, not C. sorry :(
anyway, the CLI is an easy method, but i still prefer good old open watcom compiler to write programs in C++ :D

Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 2:08 pm
by Grand_Master
WhiteKnight wrote:Learn a programming language first... like........ Python, C#, Visual Basic .Net, or Java.

When you know all the aspect of programming language you're in then you need to study network such as TCP, UDP, IPv4, IPv6, and ect... :)

Once you understand those then look for an exploit in operating system that you know which OS that your target have.
"C#, Visual Basic .Net"!!?
WhiteKnight seem to be one of those that got the most skills at this forum.
But I would recommend everyone to concentrate on cross-platform languages.
The .net framework has a limitation to MicroSoft, which I strongly oppose.
Concentrate on Java (or to get closer to the system C/C++).
Python could also be useful, it seems.

Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 5:54 pm
by PaRaDoX
the problem with python is that many people don't actually have it.......windows doesn't come with it as far as i know.

Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 2:33 am
by WhiteKnight
Grand_Master wrote:
WhiteKnight wrote:Learn a programming language first... like........ Python, C#, Visual Basic .Net, or Java.

When you know all the aspect of programming language you're in then you need to study network such as TCP, UDP, IPv4, IPv6, and ect... :)

Once you understand those then look for an exploit in operating system that you know which OS that your target have.
"C#, Visual Basic .Net"!!?
WhiteKnight seem to be one of those that got the most skills at this forum.
But I would recommend everyone to concentrate on cross-platform languages.
The .net framework has a limitation to MicroSoft, which I strongly oppose.
Concentrate on Java (or to get closer to the system C/C++).
Python could also be useful, it seems.
Well that is one way to get the basic down, C# or VB.

C++/C is an upper level after you fully experienced C# or VB.

C++/C is cross platform languages after all it what create an operating system.

So far what I experienced is that C# and VB are the easiest languages by my opinion and it does some nice and interesting result too.

Hope that explain why I ask some of you to use C# or VB, but it is not required.

And thank you for your comment, "WhiteKnight seem to be one of those that got the most skills at this forum."

Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 10:12 am
by streetlife_romantic
wewz,,, i've never learn 'bout C++ etc,,, :? :? :?


but, experience and friends give me knoeledge 'bout hacking... :oops: :oops: :oops:

Re: I'm wanna become hacker wanna know where should i start

Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 3:00 pm
by macros
nassmove wrote:hi guyz, I don't know anything of hacking could u tell me what should I do to start at hacking (what I need to learn before starting any hacking attempt) I really want to learn hacking............ I know that i need to learn alot by myself but I'm ready to do it I just want to know what I need to start learning by myself. I know a guy who knows programming but he told me that if u know programming that doesnt mean u know hacking then I also wanna know what u need more than programming to be able to hack.

it's a dream for me to one day master the art of hacking.
Try to learn PHP, JavaScript and anyone of database management system (Mysql, PostgreSQL and etc.). But if you want to hack any website you must to use XSS or SQL injection.