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Funny challenge... especially for Emacs and Windows users
^V in the standard gvim Windows installation is mapped to <paste>, so the challenge is slightly harder for the "Followers of Bill"

megabreit wrote:Funny challenge... especially for Emacs and Windows users :-)
^V in the standard gvim Windows installation is mapped to <paste>, so the challenge is slightly harder for the "Followers of Bill"

You have C-q as an alternative.

megabreit wrote:so the challenge is slightly harder for the "Followers of Bill"

I don't see how it would be, since the author's name is displayed right when you start the program. Well at least that is true for gVim version 7.2 under Windows, which is what I'm running here.

I've opened now this challenge in a computer running Windows and I saw that information for this challenge is displayed differently so it can be a little harder for these users.

Windows : it$aeihea siibea nahxpasriweA m2ao2aahielhxpanA114.
Linux : it<Esc>$ae<Esc>ih<Esc>ea s<Esc>ii<Esc>bea na<Esc>hxpasr<Esc>iwe<Esc>A m<Esc>2ao<Esc>2aa<Esc>hiel<Esc>hxpan<Esc>A<CTRL-v>114.<Esc>

but if you have Windows you can see the second text by viewing the page's source code.

I also stumbled about this, re-checked the challenge text in Linux (Firefox 6)... and it lacks the <ESC> sequences also... looks like the challenge was to easy with the escape sequence visible

bsguedes wrote: Windows : it$aeihea siibea nahxpasriweA m2ao2aahielhxpanA114.
Linux : it<Esc>$ae<Esc>ih<Esc>ea s<Esc>ii<Esc>bea na<Esc>hxpasr<Esc>iwe<Esc>A m<Esc>2ao<Esc>2aa<Esc>hiel<Esc>hxpan<Esc>A<CTRL-v>114.<Esc>

Wouldn't that rather depend on the browser than on the operating system being used?

i don't know, I've used FF in both OSs

Hm, indeed neither Firefox nor Opera nor Internet Explorer seem to show the <Esc> tags under Windows. I wonder why? Well, I guess one could use < and > to show the characters properly.

It showed the <ESC> tags for me using FF and Windows XP

i've tried chrome and it shows the tags in Win XP
i guess it didn't show the tags in FF because they use FF 1.5 here at work -.-

With a name like VIndication, one would think the answer would be Bill Joy. I guess they should have called it VIMdication. Maybe that would have been too easy.

I must say I was wracking my brain against this one until I looked at the source. It's interesting that the <ESC> would display in some browsers (it didn't for me in Chromium on ubuntu, firefox on Backtrack or Safari on iPhone), because typically things inside <> are considered tags and not displayed.

Thanks to everyone who pointed me in the right direction without giving the answer away, you know who you are. I owe you a beer when I make it to Europe next....

-gunn4r

gunn4r wrote:With a name like VIndication, one would think the answer would be Bill Joy. I guess they should have called it VIMdication. Maybe that would have been too easy.

I must say I was wracking my brain against this one until I looked at the source. It's interesting that the <ESC> would display in some browsers (it didn't for me in Chromium on ubuntu, firefox on Backtrack or Safari on iPhone), because typically things inside <> are considered tags and not displayed.

Thanks to everyone who pointed me in the right direction without giving the answer away, you know who you are. I owe you a beer when I make it to Europe next....

-gunn4r

I'm pissed. I did this in VI without seeing the source, it was much harder lol.

It didn't show the <ESC> tags for me using FF and Windows XP.

I guess if the intention of the challenge is to show the <Esc> tags properly to anyone in any browser, then they would need to be encoded properly, i.e. <Esc>

Then again, maybe we are meant to look at the HTML sourcecode. I guess only virstulte or adum can tell us how it is supposed to be.

AMindForeverVoyaging wrote:I guess if the intention of the challenge is to show the <Esc> tags properly to anyone in any browser, then they would need to be encoded properly, i.e. <Esc>

Then again, maybe we are meant to look at the HTML sourcecode. I guess only virstulte or adum can tell us how it is supposed to be.

Yep. That really took me a long time until I saw the source code. Really a challenging one, espacially for Windows users.