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hello,

I hope my English isnt so bad, im from germany!
Can you give me a hint, what the best programming is?
I want to programm also complicate programms,
so the language can be also complicate.
I can programm in C,C++,Java and mainly in Basic.
I can programm VBS too.
What is IN YOUR OPINION the best language?
Or do you know good free tools for programming?

avrrobot

ok, sorry for my stupid question
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avrrobot wrote:hello,

I hope my English isnt so bad, im from germany!
Can you give me a hint, what the best programming is?
I want to programm also complicate programms,
so the language can be also complicate.
I can programm in C,C++,Java and mainly in Basic.
I can programm VBS too.
What is IN YOUR OPINION the best language?
Or do you know good free tools for programming?

avrrobot

try learn python

thank you!
but why do you think python is best 2 learn?

avrrobot wrote:thank you!
but why do you think python is best 2 learn?

its simple then C , but if u more than to learn bout programming stuff 1st thing is learn C language , then python ..

I would suggest you learn Python first, preferabley 3+ but 2.6 won't kill you and are both good scripting languages to start with. The reason I say this is you will be getting results a lot easier a lot quicker with python than you would with C as it can be quite a paiful experiance to get used to all the things you need for it, but once you've got it you can do pretty much anything you want even if it takes longer to code and you'll have more of an idea of what is going on at machine level which can be handy

I think C# is a good introduction to the C-style syntax and the C-style data structures, but is also high-level enough to be easy to learn.
Having said that, as long as you don't pick INTERCAL or something like that, you're bound to be able to program whatever language you choose with a bit of practice.

i believe im late to the party on this thread, but im quite enjoying fortran. it's straight forward and quite intuitive.

I think the best language would depend on the task you're doing...

And a great free tool for programming is linux...

you should use python..
but the best for developing Program is JAVA

...question I wondered some time ago. Well, after some scouting, here is what I got:
Python is good to learn as a first language, because it is cross-platform, easy to get, quite high level, and introduces the concepts of object-oriented programming in an easier way.
BASIC and derivatives (VBS etc) is not recommended because it is strictly for Windows and "introduces bad habits" as someone put it.
C and C++ is for the more advanced stages, as it is more of a medium-level language, so it is a bit harder to learn, and gets closer to the ones and zeros, namely the machine. It is a lot faster, more compact and efficient, both in space and requirements, but it can take some time to get adept to it.
Java is a must if you want to enter the Web application field, for it is the dominant language of the internet.
Finally, if you are into hacking (and by hacking I mean true hacking, no cracking / phishing / phreaking and the like) you can also hit assembly, yep, granpa-geezer assembly. Studying it will get you to understand to a deep level how the thing that whirrs inside that box exactly works, and I mean exactly. It is somewhat strange and by far the most notorious language to learn, totally unrecommended to start with it, but if you ever want to take programs apart, or make the fastest programs around, assembly is the way to go. You can google "The art of the assembly language" as a start, it is by many people a good book to start.
Anyone else to add to the matter?

i have been learnd basic coble some of assembly c++ where can i find a theaching will hacker. :roll:can somebody knows c++ show me the trick of the languge

avrrobot wrote:hello,

I hope my English isnt so bad, im from germany!
Can you give me a hint, what the best programming is?
I want to programm also complicate programms,
so the language can be also complicate.
I can programm in C,C++,Java and mainly in Basic.
I can programm VBS too.
What is IN YOUR OPINION the best language?
Or do you know good free tools for programming?

avrrobot

if you look at what some professionals say: peter Norvig, Director of machine learning at google has a page called "how to learn programming in ten years" it helped me with choosing language order, at least, among the easiest ones to learn, which ones are most important... hope i help...

fastgoodone wrote:i have been learnd basic cobol some of assembly c++ where can i find a theaching will hacker. :roll:can somebody knows c++ show me the trick of the languge

is there someone using machin code if the one got the talent of a good memory?