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Prohacker57 wrote:i am surprised by how many people post forums about asking for learning. there is a site called Google.com you should check it out. you can just post a question about (how to be a programmer) or (how to hack) and it will explain to you everything.
and why did someone say in the beginning of the forum that (fuck Bill Gates)?
Bill Gates created Microsoft Windows! if it wasn't for him, then the computers that you were using right now would crash in 10 days minimum, and the programs would be very unstable. Bill Gates is a very good person.

My computer did crash in less than 10 days. Stupid Vista. But yeah, Bill Gates/Microsoft really has contributed in expanding the virtual world.

@megatron - You do realize that Vista is a Microsoft Product right?

@Prohacker - How can you say that with out windows computers would crash. Do you live in the real world? Windows Machines crash more than any other OS statistically. Of course the OS you use is of little importance when it comes to computer problems. It's the end user that is the root of any PC problems. Computers do as they are told. Nothing more. Granted, programming can leaves security holes in a machine, but in the end it's the end user that is going to sites they shouldn't, downloading shit they shouldn't, not getting patches they should, and just not educating themselves about the machine they are using. You have to take a test to drive a car and often includes a class before hand, people should do this with their computer as well. If someone is too damn to stupid to educate themselves on at least the basics of how a computer works, I have no pity on them.

plope0726 wrote:@megatron - You do realize that Vista is a Microsoft Product right?

@Prohacker - How can you say that with out windows computers would crash. Do you live in the real world? Windows Machines crash more than any other OS statistically. Of course the OS you use is of little importance when it comes to computer problems. It's the end user that is the root of any PC problems. Computers do as they are told. Nothing more. Granted, programming can leaves security holes in a machine, but in the end it's the end user that is going to sites they shouldn't, downloading shit they shouldn't, not getting patches they should, and just not educating themselves about the machine they are using. You have to take a test to drive a car and often includes a class before hand, people should do this with their computer as well. If someone is too damn to stupid to educate themselves on at least the basics of how a computer works, I have no pity on them.

i lrned tht teh processer cn st0r up to 1000 gigabites on bettr modls

plope0726 wrote:
@Prohacker - How can you say that with out windows computers would crash. Do you live in the real world? Windows Machines crash more than any other OS statistically. Of course the OS you use is of little importance when it comes to computer problems. It's the end user that is the root of any PC problems. Computers do as they are told. Nothing more. Granted, programming can leaves security holes in a machine, but in the end it's the end user that is going to sites they shouldn't, downloading shit they shouldn't, not getting patches they should, and just not educating themselves about the machine they are using. You have to take a test to drive a car and often includes a class before hand, people should do this with their computer as well. If someone is too damn to stupid to educate themselves on at least the basics of how a computer works, I have no pity on them.

Well... i guess what people are saying it takes more to crash the system then the regular old open a note pad and hold down the X key for 3 hours straight to crash it... :p

anyone can crash there computer just use that little local dos script i wrote awhile back

plope0726 wrote:@megatron - You do realize that Vista is a Microsoft Product right?

@Prohacker - How can you say that with out windows computers would crash. Do you live in the real world? Windows Machines crash more than any other OS statistically. Of course the OS you use is of little importance when it comes to computer problems. It's the end user that is the root of any PC problems. Computers do as they are told. Nothing more. Granted, programming can leaves security holes in a machine, but in the end it's the end user that is going to sites they shouldn't, downloading shit they shouldn't, not getting patches they should, and just not educating themselves about the machine they are using. You have to take a test to drive a car and often includes a class before hand, people should do this with their computer as well. If someone is too damn to stupid to educate themselves on at least the basics of how a computer works, I have no pity on them.

Yep. He was saying Microsoft made it so that my computer wouldn't crash within 10 days. I was emphasizing the point that my stupid investment got my computer to crash within 10 days.

I'm probably in the minority in saying this, but I am probably one of the few here (major assumption) who prefer windows to linux.

Now don't get me wrong, I know how to use linux and have been doing for many years. I have slackware (my linux distro of choice) on a dual boot with with windows 7.

To me, linux is for people who like making things difficult for themselves.
It is true that there are things which linux can do that windows cannot, but for everyday work I prefer Windows. Get through the occasional crash and I find it easy and useful.

I know of many 'hackers' who spend more time learning Unix then actually using it

Go figure.

sabretooth wrote:I'm probably in the minority in saying this, but I am probably one of the few here (major assumption) who prefer windows to linux.

Now don't get me wrong, I know how to use linux and have been doing for many years. I have slackware (my linux distro of choice) on a dual boot with with windows 7.

To me, linux is for people who like making things difficult for themselves.
It is true that there are things which linux can do that windows cannot, but for everyday work I prefer Windows. Get through the occasional crash and I find it easy and useful.

I know of many 'hackers' who spend more time learning Unix then actually using it

Go figure.

i would like linux if i was able to get on the internet with it

i tried using ndiswrapper on backtrack to install 1 of 3 wireless devices netgear wg511v2, netgear wpn111, and linksys wusb54gsc... i have the drivers on the computer but the ndiswrapper just dosent work -.-

(i put this here because i didn't want to make a new thread and be called a noob -.-)

@koolpop0
What BackTrack version are you using? If it's BT4 you need to enter /etc/init.d/networking start. This enables DHCP which is disabled by default. As they put it, "You don't always want to SCREAM for DHCP when plugging into a client's network." Also check out this link https://wiki.remote-exploit.org/backtrack/ for more backtrack documentation.

@sabretooth

I doubt you are the minority on this. I use windows for my regular work also, because like you said, one doesn't want to spend all day learning commands. I do prefer Linux over windows in most cases though because it offers a lot more tools outside of the basic word pad, calculator, and web browser. It really depends on the task at hand as to which OS I'm going to use.

but i thought windows 7 wasn't out yet, i thought it would come out in september.

Prohacker57 wrote:but i thought windows 7 wasn't out yet, i thought it would come out in september.

http://windows7news.com/tag/windows-7-rtm/

plope0726 wrote:@koolpop0
What BackTrack version are you using? If it's BT4 you need to enter /etc/init.d/networking start. This enables DHCP which is disabled by default. As they put it, "You don't always want to SCREAM for DHCP when plugging into a client's network." Also check out this link https://wiki.remote-exploit.org/backtrack/ for more backtrack documentation.

@sabretooth

I doubt you are the minority on this. I use windows for my regular work also, because like you said, one doesn't want to spend all day learning commands. I do prefer Linux over windows in most cases though because it offers a lot more tools outside of the basic word pad, calculator, and web browser. It really depends on the task at hand as to which OS I'm going to use.

thanks

but after three hours of working i figured out how to use vmware now the internet works without it '

i like backtrack 3 its more stable and i am more familiar with it

koolpop0 wrote:
thanks

but after three hours of working i figured out how to use vmware now the internet works without it

Ok. Do you know if you can use the Wireless tools in a VM?

plope0726 wrote:

koolpop0 wrote:
thanks

but after three hours of working i figured out how to use vmware now the internet works without it

Ok. Do you know if you can use the Wireless tools in a VM?

I believe if you use bridged networking you still can. Been a while so that may or may not be true.

megatron40 wrote:

plope0726 wrote:

koolpop0 wrote:
thanks

but after three hours of working i figured out how to use vmware now the internet works without it

Ok. Do you know if you can use the Wireless tools in a VM?

I believe if you use bridged networking you still can. Been a while so that may or may not be true.

it says in the beginning that the following device's can be connected to the virtual machine (somewhere along that lines)

so when you have the vmachine booted up go up to the drop down that says "VM" and go down to removable devices and select the device you want to connect to the VM

but because i use netgear i need to use ndiswrapper to install the driver... (or so i think not sure about this part)

your probably better off buying an atheros device as far as i know the usb device only costs about 37$

I've got a built in atheros, so I should be alright with that. i just wasn't sure if being in a VM whether backtrack picked up that it was a wireless nic because it shows my connection in the vm as wired.