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Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 9:35 pm
by PaRaDoX
athlete501 wrote: it can be both
still refers as a hacker..cracker is a nickname
yet again "hacker" is the general collection..cracker is just short for blackhat
like i said..it was created because of a misuse of "hacker", framing ethical hackers as well as malicious hackers
using hacker for both ethical and malicious is the literal correct way
using cracker for malicious is the "jargon" or "slang" that has been adapted..however only hackers use the word cracker...it was established in 1985 and hackers are still framed just as much..if not more..so what was the point in the first place
and even regardless..we all learn from the same place..the same stuff..just use it a different way, we are doing the same thing..thus we are all hackers regardless of motive
and even more! there are a group of people that crack software in which is normally paid for. those should be given the name crackers. hence they "crack the code"
dude it doesn't matter what the interwebs say, take it from REAL hackers, hackers are NOT malicious. the people who infiltrate banks to steal money and otherwise are CRACKERS and should be referred to as such from now on. thanks. thats why we complain about being misconstrued and misunderstood, because of what the interwebs and people like you say. please try to be a bit more open minded.
thanks
Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 9:38 pm
by athlete501
lol no comment
Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 11:59 pm
by PaRaDoX
athlete501 wrote:lol no comment
^_^
wasn't meant to be offensive if thats how you took it
Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 11:43 am
by Hephaestus
paradox... im all for putting noobs and assholes in their place... but by what authority are you a REAL hacker? are the puzzles/challenges on this site beneath you or something?
get top level on runaway robot (easiest puzzle, im not too good and i got it in a few hours) and ill listen.
Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 12:33 pm
by BerryTheWest
Hephaestus wrote:paradox... im all for putting noobs and assholes in their place... but by what authority are you a REAL hacker? are the puzzles/challenges on this site beneath you or something?
get top level on runaway robot (easiest puzzle, im not too good and i got it in a few hours) and ill listen.
I am teaching him currently. I am by under WhiteKnight authority as a real certified ethical hacker and currently is my mentor.
Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 3:28 pm
by athlete501
PaRaDoX wrote:athlete501 wrote:lol no comment
^_^
wasn't meant to be offensive if thats how you took it
no no lol it was just pointless to go on because we're both correct lol
Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 12:11 am
by PaRaDoX
Hephaestus wrote:paradox... im all for putting noobs and assholes in their place... but by what authority are you a REAL hacker? are the puzzles/challenges on this site beneath you or something?
get top level on runaway robot (easiest puzzle, im not too good and i got it in a few hours) and ill listen.
runaway robot in no way makes you a hacker. im not claiming to be an expert hacker, im claiming that idiots and assholes are in no way on the right track. if you want, ill do the puzzle but that won't prove a thing. i just find the puzzles pointless. the challenges i hardly bother but ive done some of them. hacking is more a way of thinking that actually knowing the technical stuff if you ask me, since just having the knowledge but the wrong ideals makes you a CRACKER. I'm not speaking out of authority to them in any way, i'm speaking out of being the angriest ranter of the group as far as i know :3
besides, note how everyone else does the same? why did you specifically target me with this?
Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 2:27 am
by Zaffron
i'm speaking out of being the angriest ranter of the group as far as i know :3
Damn straight and thats why all the real hackers/ hackers in training love you so much!
Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 9:17 pm
by Hephaestus
...fair enough... and i specifically target you because you are the angriest ranter :) as you said... but i guess someones got to do it. at least you know the idea of hacking
and puzzles dont make you a hacker... but a hacker should be able to do them
Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 12:18 am
by PaRaDoX
Hephaestus wrote:...fair enough... and i specifically target you because you are the angriest ranter
as you said... but i guess someones got to do it. at least you know the idea of hacking
and puzzles dont make you a hacker... but a hacker should be able to do them
of course, but like i said, a normal person could too!
Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 12:19 am
by PaRaDoX
Zaffron wrote:i'm speaking out of being the angriest ranter of the group as far as i know :3
Damn straight and thats why all the real hackers/ hackers in training love you so much!
:3
i enjoy what i do XD
Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 2:21 am
by athlete501
the puzzles are more or less of hacking..but instead programming i believe? you write a program that does it for you? i'm pretty sure thats how it goes for most of them. never really cared because they dont do shit for hacking lol
btw paradox...how much do you know, may i ask? and where do you learn it? mentor or just looking this shit up..if so..maybe you wanna PM me some helpful documents..tips..what not...its always good to get more information
Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 3:26 am
by PaRaDoX
athlete501 wrote:the puzzles are more or less of hacking..but instead programming i believe? you write a program that does it for you? i'm pretty sure thats how it goes for most of them. never really cared because they dont do shit for hacking lol
btw paradox...how much do you know, may i ask? and where do you learn it? mentor or just looking this shit up..if so..maybe you wanna PM me some helpful documents..tips..what not...its always good to get more information
YES. MORE INFO IS GOOD.
how much do i know......more than likely it's less than it appears. lets just say.....im more wise than knowledgeable, if you get my drift
i do dabble in web hacking (non black hat of course)
the only things i ever do to ACTUAL web pages is make em do "flips" ( any neat little non illegal trick) , and only for the lulz.
learning a bit of C# off berry, DOS (blah everyone knows DOS), python (it was fun while it lasted), a bit of javascript, etc.etc.
you know, bits here and there. jack of all trades, master of none they say T.T
Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 3:37 am
by BerryTheWest
PaRaDoX wrote:athlete501 wrote:the puzzles are more or less of hacking..but instead programming i believe? you write a program that does it for you? i'm pretty sure thats how it goes for most of them. never really cared because they dont do shit for hacking lol
btw paradox...how much do you know, may i ask? and where do you learn it? mentor or just looking this shit up..if so..maybe you wanna PM me some helpful documents..tips..what not...its always good to get more information
YES. MORE INFO IS GOOD.
how much do i know......more than likely it's less than it appears. lets just say.....im more wise than knowledgeable, if you get my drift
i do dabble in web hacking (non black hat of course)
the only things i ever do to ACTUAL web pages is make em do "flips" ( any neat little non illegal trick) , and only for the lulz.
learning a bit of C# off berry, DOS (blah everyone knows DOS), python (it was fun while it lasted), a bit of javascript, etc.etc.
you know, bits here and there. jack of all trades, master of none they say T.T
YAY I'M BEING CREDITED!
Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 3:42 am
by Zaffron
Can you train me in some C#?